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Remember When – Episode 41


The TRON Lebowski

After a long winter’s night, Remember When is back again for more retro-style goodness.

Since our hiatus lasted a little longer than we would have liked, we’re temporarily tabling the Doctor Who / Torchwood episodes to get back into some of the original Remember When formula.  We start off with a look back at TRON.  The original 1982 Disney film is a cult classic, and serves as the latest “Great Movie Jay Has Never Seen”.  With fresh eyes and an open mind, Jay sits down and talks about what he liked about the movie, why he thinks TRON sucks, and his thoughts behind what a 7 year old version of himself would have thought about TRON.

Then we jump into our discussion on TRON: Legacy.  As the big budget follow-up approaches the 300 million dollar mark at the box office, Parris and Jay sit down at their microphones and roll up their sleeves as they go head-to-head with their opinions on the sequel.  Can a huge marketing budget and crazy special effects work save this movie?  We talk about what works, what fails, and why Disney should never force a TRON movie to be a Big Lebowski sequel.

The last half of the show is a catch-up on all of our film and TV related tangents, with chatter about the mid-season TV schedule.  Parris admits he was wrong about a TV show, Jay admits that Parris was right about a TV show, and we rave about the brilliance of Ricky Gervais.  Maybe a little too much.

There’s a detailed look at the roster of shows coming in the first half of 2011.  If you’ve been complaining that we haven’t done enough “Remember When” stuff in our podcast, then you’re in for a treat.  We’re preparing some MAJOR shows that will dive deep into some of the best movies of the 70’s and 80’s.  Of course, we then tangent off into yet another direction.  Hey, it’s what we do.

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0:00 to 5:54 – Introduction, explanation of the show’s hiatus

5:54 to 19:01 – Discussion of the original TRON (Great Movies Jay Has Never Seen) – SPOILERS

19:01 to 49:50 – Discussion of TRON: Legacy – SPOILERS

49:50 to 50:21 – Intermission

50:21 to 1:15:38 – Tangent Central, Part 1 (TV talk, Jay Hulks Parris, Cowboy Bebop)

1:15:38 to 1:22:28 – The Remember When schedule for the first half of 2011

1:22:28 to End – Tangent Central, Part 2 (Ricky Gervais love, the Bill Murray appreciation segment, and more)

Jay’s spoiler-free take on TRON Legacy, in less than 400 words


TRON Legacy isn’t Shakespeare.

The reviews for the latest take on the legacy of Flynn and his electronic grid are less than kind.  Reading some of them, you’d expect this movie to be on par with one of the worst movies ever.  Even my companion to the midnight launch last night compared the movie’s suckitude to The Matrix Revolutions, a declaration which kind of surprised me.

So let me just say, TRON Legacy isn’t Shakespeare.  It’s not a Movie of the Year contender.  Instead, it’s just fun.

If you go into the movie only expecting a 2 hour piece of entertainment, you’ll probably walk out very happy.  That’s how I approached the movie, and I left the theater pleased.  TRON Legacy is fun.  It’s loud, it’s shiny, and it’s one of the best uses of your movie theater’s subwoofer since the Inception soundtrack.  The writing isn’t the best, and the acting has some issues.

TRON Legacy is like the Michael Bay film for geeks.  The explosions are big and beautiful, the sound effects are well crafted, the set work will impress you, and the special effects are a work of art.  Daft Punk’s soundtrack is like sex for your ears. I’d even go so far as to say that TRON Legacy is one of the best uses of 3D in a while.  And although the script work is questionable at best, the writers at least deserve credit for ditching the PC acronyms as character names.

It’s not perfect and it has its problems, CLU being the biggest of them.  I also think the trailers have painted a terrible picture of Legacy being this massively epic sci-fi piece on a similar scale as The Matrix, which is a woefully inaccurate comparison and an unattainable bar for any movie.

If you’re a TRON fan, you’ll see lots of background references to the original film (Space Paranoids, anyone?).  If you’ve never seen the original, go see Legacy anyway, because it gives you a great synopsis of the events from its predecesor.  But whoever you are, if you go see Legacy, just go with a good time in mind, and make no heavy demands of it. You’ll probably find the right level of entertainment. Then again, I’m the guy who liked The A-Team. 😉

Oh, and biggest surprise of the night?  I kinda loved the trailer for Cars 2.  No joke.

Holy cow! The new Tron Legacy trailer rocks


Ever since I saw the first trailer earlier this year, I’ve been really eager to see Tron Legacy.  The initial teaser didn’t do much for me, but seeing the 3D trailer in front of Alice in Wonderland had me practically wetting myself.  I honestly thought Disney had outdone themselves when I saw that.

As it turns out, I was wrong.  The latest trailer manages to be a lot more dark and intense, and for me, it’s turned the anticipation for Tron Legacy from “Oooh, that looks SO good” to something more akin to “OHMIGAWD IS IT HERE YET?!?!?!!!!111oneone”.  This movie looks incredible, and the CG version of younger Jeff Bridges is practically mind blowing, even if the lip syncing is a slight bit off.

Disney looks to have another hit on their hands with Tron Legacy, which is amazing considering that the first film wasn’t a spectacular hit.  Even more interesting, they had Pixar help with the creative process of this film, with both Brad Bird and John Lassiter (among many other Pixar alum) offering a hand with the development of this remake.

We’re planning a major Tron episode for Remember When, due out in very late December.  In Remember When time, that comes out to something along the lines of early January.  I’ve never seen the original Tron before (seriously), so we’ll feature that as a Great Movie Jay Has Never Seen and discuss the original movie from the 80’s, then follow it up with a discussion on this latest piece of flashiness.

Are you interested in the Tron Legacy release?  Let us know your thoughts!

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